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- From: Stian Rødven Eide <stian AT fripost.org>
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- Subject: Re: [FSCONS] Presentation at this year's FSCONS?
- Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 16:57:01 +0200
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In my opinion, it would be interesting to have a talk on the technical
aspects of this, to show how and why this would work.
Also, it might be in the interest of the speaker to get in touch with
the people behind "Terms of Service - Didn't Read" (http://tosdr.org/),
if he hasn't already.
/Stian
2013-07-07 02:41, Thomas Gramstad skrev:
> Hi,
>
> I have received this positive response and interesting
> topic suggestion from Cristian Prisacariu (below). It
> can be developed in several directions, which one would
> be best at FSCONS?
>
> I've added it to
> http://wiki.fscons.org/index.php5?title=Suggested_Speakers_2013
>
> Thomas
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 23:00:33 +0200
> From: Cristian Prisacariu
> <cristi AT ifi.uio.no>
> To: Thomas Gramstad
> <thomas AT ifi.uio.no>
> Subject: Re: Presentation at this year's FSCONS?
>
> Hello Thomas,
>
> sorry for this late reply.
> Thank you for the suggestion. It would be very nice to present at
> FSCONS. I thought of the following.
>
> I can present about a new project that I am starting to work on.
> This project idea came after I saw two presentations last year at FSCONS.
> The project is about Terms of Service and automated tools that would
> empower the usual person to read, understand, and check that their
> predefined expectations/profile/properties are met by the ToS. In very
> brief, this project wants to give the people the power to not ignore the
> many ToS that they are subjected to, while they are online, like when
> shopping or using a service. An automated tool would take care of
> reading these ToS agreements and only signal to the user when the ToS
> breaks the user defined set of properties (i.e., the user's profile of
> expected minimum privacy/security requirements from such ToS).
> To get this there is quite some research needed, related to natural
> language processing and to logics that would be used to make the
> computer understand the meaning of the various terms used in the ToS
> texts. I am interested in this theoretical aspects. But there are also
> many implementation and design issues.
>
> I would give you more details in a few days, if you think this would fit
> in FSCONS.
>
> In my opinion, this project is of much interest to FSCONS because its
> purpose is to free the normal users (i.e., those without legal
> knowledge) from the trap that ToS are. As one of the presenters from
> last FSCONS said, ToS are so long that it would take too much time only
> to read the texts (72 working days!?); ToS use legal terminology that is
> much beyond normal people's comprehension; and one has no choice than to
> agree with the ToS in order to have access to the service, and there is
> no alternative ToS.
>
> There are many aspects of this project that I could talk about; for
> example, there is the notion of automatic negotiation of such ToS; or
> the idea of human experts helping the logical system behind (this
> logical system can never be perfectly autonomous); or the many
> implementation issues.
>
> So this project may also have to do with the economy aspect of a
> society, or with the freedom on the Internet, or with the legal aspects
> of the electronic society that we are becoming, or wherever you think
> may fit best.
>
> best wishes,
> cristian
>
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> Have a nice day from
> Cristian Prisacariu
> member of PMA group (Precise Modeling and Analysis)
> at Dept. of Informatics, Univ. of Oslo
> http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/forskning/grupper/pma/index.html
> Also visit my home page at
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- Re: [FSCONS] Presentation at this year's FSCONS?, Thomas Gramstad, 07/07/2013
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