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[Amelia Andersdotter <amelia.andersdotter AT dataskydd.net>]

Do we have any volunteers to design posters?

And what would we put on the posters? I propose an A4-format with colour
including logos of our both organisations.

We still need a coordination e-mail. We can set one up at dataskydd.net
with no greater difficulty, unless you have objections?
ethicscontest2016 AT dataskydd.net
 ?

Essay contest: Ethics of security engineering

FSCONS and Dataskydd.net invite students of technology to participate in an 
essay contest on the theme of morality in security engineering. Inspired by 
Philip Rogaway's article on the moral of cryptography from December 2015 we 
invite students to submit an essay on a similar or related theme of at most 
10'000 words before September 1st 2016. A jury consisting of practising 
engineers, academics and members of our organisations will award the best 
essay with a prize of 2000 SEK at the annual installation of the FSCONS 
conference in Göteborg. Runner-up-prizes amounting to 1000 and 500 SEK will 
also be awarded.

Please submit your contribution to <COORDINATOR EMAIL> at latest September 
1st 2016.



On 02/03/16 19:46, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>
>> On 02/02/16 02:04, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>> Writing is hard work, and many, even among those who are good at
>>> writing, find the work boring or excruciating. Therefore I believe
>>> that our greatest problem will be to get a non-embarrassing number of
>>> essay submissions. Also, our prizes are not big enough to make people
>>> do the work for the money.
>>>
>>> Therefore, I believe exclusivity is bad, and inclusivity is good.
>>>
>>> Or to put it differently: Hard work and low pay is exclusive enough.
>>>
>>
>> What about having an unspecified target group, and advertise it in
>> forums that are mostly read by engineering students? We could make
>> the criteria "academic-level essay" and leave it open to the
>> submitter to decide whether they feel comfortable calling their work
>> academic-level? Because I see what you mean, and you're right.
>
> Yes, I agree with that strategy! :)
>
> On another note, perhaps Amelia should be added as a subscriber to the
> org mailing list, so that her postings to the list go right through to
> the list, instead of being placed in the moderation queue, waiting for
> a moderator.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>> best regards,
>>
>> Amelia
>>
>>> I do want as high quality as possible on the submissions, so I'm not
>>> suggesting a PR wave targeting high school students. I just don't want
>>> that one bright nerd in high school who happens to hear about the
>>> contest and finds themself writing a raw, but original and good and
>>> thoughtful essay to be excluded by default because the rules say they
>>> are in the wrong school or age group.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, sorry this got stuck!
>>>>
>>>> 1) Exclusivity is good. I had imagined our target group to be
>>>> engineering students, cryptographers, computer scientists. This is the
>>>> group that normally lacks opportunity to reflect on these topics,
>>>> which
>>>> is not true for humanist studies.
>>>> 2) As for length: I propose no longer than 10000 words - this means
>>>> about 30 pages, and people can submit B or C level university theses
>>>> should they so desire. It's supposed to be an academic-level essay (in
>>>> my opinion).
>>>> 3) Submission deadline should probably be latest in August. Thorough
>>>> jury work requires time.
>>>>
>>>> Do we have any takers on who should be asked to sit in the jury (ref
>>>> previous correspondence)?
>>>>
>>>> best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Amelia
>>>>
>>>> On 01/27/16 01:11, Anders Bergkvist wrote:
>>>>> I don't have much experience running an essay contest. In fact,
>>>>> none at
>>>>> all. My naive suggestions as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) In principle I agree with Thomas that we may want to keep the
>>>>> competition open for as many as possible. There may also be an
>>>>> advantage
>>>>> with *some *restriction, perhaps to elevate the competition to some
>>>>> sort of
>>>>> exclusivity and perhaps also to lend some structure to the contest
>>>>> announcement. Perhaps limit it to university students in the Nordic
>>>>> countries would make sense? I guess Rogaway's article wouldn't
>>>>> typically be
>>>>> read by students below university level anyway?
>>>>> 3) A quick online search for "essay contest" gives the following
>>>>> sample:
>>>>> 500-1000 words, 600-1200, no more than 750, and 700-1000 words.
>>>>> Rogaway's
>>>>> article itself is 16k+ words, excluding notes. Perhaps 500-1000 is
>>>>> good if
>>>>> we want to prioritize short and succinct and 600-1200 if we want to
>>>>> allow
>>>>> for more elaborate texts?
>>>>> 4) A submission deadline last of September would give the jury
>>>>> about a
>>>>> month to reach decisions. That should be enough, what do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>> Anders
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:09 PM, Thomas Gramstad
>>>>> <thomas AT ifi.uio.no>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not make the competition open to all students or school pupils
>>>>>> located
>>>>>> anywhere in one of the Nordic countries?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see no reason to accept only a few cities, a few studies or even
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> Sweden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't have to publish or market the competition everywhere in the
>>>>>> Nordic countries, we focus on our respective locations, and let
>>>>>> word of
>>>>>> mouth (crowd mouthing) do the rest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We might also require that the prize winners must meet up in person
>>>>>> or by
>>>>>> agreed upon representative to accept the prize, or the prize will be
>>>>>> forfeit and will pass on to the runner(s) up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all! :-)
>>>>>>> If Vetenskapsfestivalen is in April it's clearly too early, so
>>>>>>> then I
>>>>>>> propose we go for Stian's idea and assume there will be an FSCONS
>>>>>>> sometime in November.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I will reinitiate my previous proposal. We need to decide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) For whom is the contest open?
>>>>>>> 2) Who will be the jury?
>>>>>>> 3) How long must the essays be?
>>>>>>> 4) When do we open and, primarily, close the competition?
>>>>>>> 5) Award-sums (2000,1000,1000 are acceptable award sums to me -
>>>>>>> I can
>>>>>>> chip in for this).
>>>>>>> 6) Is anyone savvy on making posters?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sketch for advertisement:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =====
>>>>>>> Essay contest: Ethics of security engineering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FSCONS and Dataskydd.net invite students of technology to
>>>>>>> participate in
>>>>>>> an essay contest on the theme of morals in security engineering.
>>>>>>> Inspired by Philip Rogaway's article on the moral of cryptography
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> December 2015 we invite anyone who is 1) currently enrolled in an
>>>>>>> engineering studies program in (<LOCATION: Göteborg, Lund,
>>>>>>> others?>) 2)
>>>>>>> <ANY OTHER GROUP?> to submit an essay on a similar or related
>>>>>>> theme of
>>>>>>> at most <XXXX CHARACTERS/PAGES> before <DATE>. A jury consisting of
>>>>>>> <THESE PEOPLE> will award the best essay with a prize of <X SEK>
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> occasion of FSCONS <DATE> 2016 in Göteborg. Runner-up-prizes
>>>>>>> amounting
>>>>>>> to <Y> and <Z SEK> will also be awarded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please submit your contribution to <EMAIL-ADRESS> before <SOME
>>>>>>> DATE>.
>>>>>>> ======
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably we need print-outs to put up at universities whose
>>>>>>> students we
>>>>>>> target (like Chalmers, LTH). I am naturally focused on
>>>>>>> universities to
>>>>>>> which I know I have physical access. My time-plan would be:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> February-August: Contest running.
>>>>>>> September-October: Jury deliberations.
>>>>>>> November: Price ceremony at FSCONS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/25/16 01:46, Anders Bergkvist wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Amelia, Stian, Thomas and others, > > Thanks Amelia for
>>>>>>>> inviting me
>>>>>>>> to the discussion. > > Allow me to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> introduce myself: I have a university background in engineering >
>>>>>>> physics and I have since then moved between many scientific
>>>>>>> disciplines.
>>>>>>> I > currently work for a chemistry and life science company. I
>>>>>>> only have
>>>>>>> basic > knowledge about cryptography and I am limited in how much
>>>>>>> time I
>>>>>>> can/want > to devote to learn more about technical aspects of it.
>>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>> easier for me > to engage, and I recognize the importance of, the
>>>>>>> political and > philosophical tensions between privacy and
>>>>>>> transparency.
>>>>>>> This is something > that interests me a lot. > > I am happy to
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>> the essay competition Amelia proposed, with a modest > prize
>>>>>>> contribution, and by being a local contact person in Goteborg. I
>>>>>>> have >
>>>>>>> many contacts at Chalmers and elsewhere in Goteborg, although
>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mathematics and computational sciences mostly on subjects of >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bioinformatics, statistics, machine learning, etc. and not on
>>>>>>> cryptography. > I can explore for more contacts, if desired. > >
>>>>>>> Vetenskapsfestivalen is scheduled for April 11-22. I expect the
>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will be set very soon. The program is scheduled to be open for
>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>> bookings from February 23. If we wait to commit until after FSCONS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yearly > meeting in April I would expect it would be too late to
>>>>>>> participate at > Vetenskapsfestivalen. The theme of
>>>>>>> Vetenskapsfestivalen
>>>>>>> this year is "Same > but different". If we contact them, what
>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>> our level of ambition? > > Thomas, you are welcome to stay at my
>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>> in Goteborg when you need. > > Anders > > > > On Sun, Jan 24,
>>>>>>> 2016 at
>>>>>>> 7:45 PM, Stian Rødven Eide 
>>>>>>> <stian AT fripost.org>
>>>>>>>  > wrote: >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Amelia,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My initial impression was that the award ceremony would take
>>>>>>>> place at
>>>>>>>> FSCONS proper. I think that should be fine. Are you looking for a
>>>>>>>> backup plan in case FSCONS doesn't happen? I suggest we go ahead
>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>> the assumption that FSCONS will take place in November as
>>>>>>>> usual, and
>>>>>>>> find another venue only if we need to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, I'm not entirely sure about how to integrate this into
>>>>>>>> Vetenskapsfestivalen. Are you suggesting that FSCONS should get a
>>>>>>>> place in the programme for the festival and have the ceremony
>>>>>>>> there?
>>>>>>>> I'm really not averse to that either, but I'm afraid I can't
>>>>>>>> offer to
>>>>>>>> help out with organising that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Stian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2016-01-24 19:05, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>> First things first:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - We agree the contest needs to start. - We agree(?) there
>>>>>>>>>>> needs to
>>>>>>>>>>> be an award ceremony. Can we have focused proposals on an award
>>>>>>>>>>> ceremony?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I propose we get in touch with Vetenskapsfestivalen. Another
>>>>>>>>>>> route
>>>>>>>>>>> would be to have a mini-FSCONS only for the award ceremony.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/24/16 16:47, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Stian Rødven Eide wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Amelia, and sorry for the hold-up. Your e-mails were all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck in the moderation queue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I volunteer to co-moderate or co-admin the org list. I already
>>>>>>>>>>>> have 40-50 lists on 4 other mailman installations from
>>>>>>>>>>>> before, so
>>>>>>>>>>>> one more will not be a big difference or impact on me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, I think the essay contest is a wonderful idea. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only if is whether there will be another FSCONS. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not guaranteed, and we'll know for sure after the yearly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting (which probably will take place in April).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could this meeting take place on a thursday evening? In that
>>>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>>>> I might be able to attend, assuming I can couch surf in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothenburg from thursday to friday, going back to Oslo friday
>>>>>>>>>>>> morning. Because thursday I finish early at work, while
>>>>>>>>>>>> friday I
>>>>>>>>>>>> start work at 15:00. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If that is too late to start the contest, feel free to proceed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already now and we'll find some kind of forum to present the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> winners in any case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the contest needs to start now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I think we need to raise another SEK 1000 for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> contest,
>>>>>>>>>>>> so that second place and third place can each be awarded SEK
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1000.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> all the best, Stian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-01-15 15:19, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reminder ping with Anders (a Gothenburg man!) included in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sending list (check CC).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/05/16 15:34, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy new Year! To business:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be partisan to starting out "small" in terms of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With 3000 kronor we could have 1 first price (2000 SEK) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 runner-ups (500 each), for instance? Or a 1st/2nd/3rd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place according to 1500/1000/500SEK award.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sketch for advertisement:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===== Essay contest: Ethics of security engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FSCONS and Dataskydd.net invite students of technology to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in an essay contest on the theme of morals in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security engineering. Inspired by Philip Rogaway's article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the moral of cryptography from December 2015 we invite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone who is 1) currently enrolled in an engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studies program in (<LOCATION: Göteborg, Lund, others?>) 2)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ANY OTHER GROUP?> to submit an essay on a similar or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related theme of at most <XXXX CHARACTERS/PAGES> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <DATE>. A jury consisting of <THESE PEOPLE> will award the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best essay with a prize of <X SEK> at the occasion of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FSCONS <DATE> 2016 in Göteborg. Runner-up-prizes amounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to <Y> and <Z SEK> will also be awarded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please submit your contribution to <EMAIL-ADRESS> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <SOME DATE>. ======
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably we need print-outs to put up at universities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose students we target (like Chalmers, LTH). I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naturally focused on universities to which I know I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physical access. My time-plan would be:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> February-August: Contest running. September-October: Jury
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deliberations. November: Price ceremony at FSCONS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jury members will need to be assigned. Someone from Kirei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps (security firm in Göteborg - or some other security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firm? Assured?), from Dataskydd and from FSCONS and FFKP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Jonas Öberg)? That'd make four people with varying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backgrounds. It'd be good to have someone with academic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> qualifications as well, since we're targetting people from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> academic environments (with only a bachelor I don't count
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-().
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/15 06:51, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: If this is included in FSCONS 2016 as suggested, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too pledge to donate SEK 1000 to the prize, bringing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> award up to a total of SEK 3000.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should try to get even more funding, so we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also have 2nd and 3rd place awards. Maybe we could use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the crowdfunding sites?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (PPS: Sorry for an irrelevant Subject:-header the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been e-mailing with Amelia about an interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea for next year's FSCONS. Summary of the idea: To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an essay contest about political, sosial and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethical aspects and obligations of cryptography,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2016, and with the prize winner being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announced and delivered at FSCONS 2016. Amelia and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend provide the prize money (SEK 2000).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does this sound to you? Amelia also suggests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organizing a committee for the prize.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below is a copy of what I and Amelia have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussing so far (in Scandinavian, sorry about that to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who cannot read Scandinavian -- we can discuss it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in English from now on).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 29
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dec 2015 01:54:24 +0100 From: Thomas Gramstad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <thomas AT gramstad.no>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  To: Amelia Andersdotter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <amelia AT andersdotter.cc>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: Åpent brev til
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justisminister Anders Anundsen Resent-From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <thomas AT ifi.uio.no>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hej Amelia,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Det høres flott ut! Jeg kan promotere tevlingen i Oslo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeg sjekker inn med resten av FSCONS-komiteen. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prispengarna är en donation från mig som matchas av
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> killen i Göteborg som ville hjälpa till. Så vi pytsar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personligen in 1000 kronor var.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Svenska, norska och engelska kanske? För mig spelar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inte språket roll.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Problemet är marknadsföring av att tävlingen finns -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jag kan marknadsföra tävlingen i Lund, enbart. Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i Gbg kan marknadsföra i Gbg. Utan att ha ännu mer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pengar kommer vi ju inte kunna betala reseersättning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> för pristagaren.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Om resten av er org.kommittee tycker det är kul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kanske vi ska sätta upp en liten arbetsgrupp?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hälsar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/15 18:43, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hei Amelia,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ja, jeg er fortsatt med i org.komiteen for FSCONS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeg synes det er en veldig spennende ide med
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essaykonkurranse så jeg videresender forslaget til
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resten av komiteen! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Et par spørsmål:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Må essay være skrevet på svensk eller på engelsk,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kan evt. den som skriver velge mellom de to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> språkene?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hvem betaler prispengene SEK 2000? (FSCONS har
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lite penger og gikk med underskudd i år.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Om du ändå är med i organisationskommittéen för
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FSCONS har jag ett förslag!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philip Rogaway skrev en uppsats om moral och
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kryptografi i december 2015:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/moral.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jag funderade på om Dataskydd.net (min NGO i Sverige
>>>>>>>>> som också deltog på FSCONS) och FSCONS skulle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kunna göra en gemensam uppsatstävling för
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teknologstudenter kring temat som Rogaway tar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upp, med prisutdelning på FSCONS 2016?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jag har en annan person (boendes i Göteborg) som
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vill hjälpa till och tillsammans kan han och jag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bidra med marknadsföringsteam (vi har inte
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funderat på utformningen av affischer än, dock)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> och prissumma på 2000 kronor (Anders Bergkvist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heter han).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tävlingen skulle löpa nu under våren eller fram
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> till hösten, tänker jag. Juryn utser sedan bästa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uppsats under hösten.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vad tror du?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hare så bra på Kanarieöarna :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hälsar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/15 16:30, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hej Amelia,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ja, selvsagt husker jeg deg. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeg var forresten på FSCONS, men visste ikke at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> du var der før etterpå
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- jeg var opptatt med å organisere/være
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> konferansier på to av de andre sporene.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enig i at vi bør samarbeide mot denne dumheten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over grensene --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumheten er jo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grenseoverskridende/overnasjonal...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Takk for lenkene, skal sjekke dem. Har også
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gått gjennom deres slides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fra FSCONS, spennende tema. Har ikke fått sett
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> videoen av foredraget ennå, men snart :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeg er på Gran Canaria 1.-19. januar, og er
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lite tilgjengelig i den
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perioden. (Er med og arrangerer Gran Canaria
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Business Week, et treffpunkt for digitale nomader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> og entreprenører.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Amelia Andersdotter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jag hoppas du minns mig :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angående er korkade Justitieminister är
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sveriges justitieminister
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minst lika dum. Vi borde samarbeta mot dumheten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> över gränserna!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ett problem är att Europarådet i och för sig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verkar godta hemlig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dataavläsning ("riktad övervakning").Så
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> människorättsargumentet är svårare att
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> framhålla. Hemlig dataavläsning är dock urkorkat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> från ett allmänt säkerhetsperspektiv. Jag och
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> några till har försökt lyfta det i Sverige:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.2931257-statliga-trojaner-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drar-ett-sakrare-internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dagenssamhalle.se/debatt/foerslag-om-dataintrang-och-sign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> alsp
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aning-duger-inte-20518?pack=20142
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vänliga hälsningar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>


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