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[Stian Rødven Eide <stian AT fripost.org>]

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Hi Amelia, and sorry for the hold-up. Your e-mails were all stuck in
the moderation queue.

In short, I think the essay contest is a wonderful idea. The only if
is whether there will be another FSCONS. It is likely, but not
guaranteed, and we'll know for sure after the yearly meeting (which
probably will take place in April). If that is too late to start the
contest, feel free to proceed already now and we'll find some kind of
forum to present the winners in any case.

all the best,
Stian

On 2016-01-15 15:19, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
> Reminder ping with Anders (a Gothenburg man!) included in the
> sending list (check CC).
> 
> On 01/05/16 15:34, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Happy new Year! To business:
>> 
>> I would be partisan to starting out "small" in terms of money.
>> 
>> With 3000 kronor we could have 1 first price (2000 SEK) and 2
>> runner-ups (500 each), for instance? Or a 1st/2nd/3rd place
>> according to 1500/1000/500SEK award.
>> 
>> Sketch for advertisement:
>> 
>> ===== Essay contest: Ethics of security engineering
>> 
>> FSCONS and Dataskydd.net invite students of technology to
>> participate in an essay contest on the theme of morals in
>> security engineering. Inspired by Philip Rogaway's article on the
>> moral of cryptography from December 2015 we invite anyone who is
>> 1) currently enrolled in an engineering studies program in
>> (<LOCATION: Göteborg, Lund, others?>) 2) <ANY OTHER GROUP?> to
>> submit an essay on a similar or related theme of at most <XXXX
>> CHARACTERS/PAGES> before <DATE>. A jury consisting of <THESE
>> PEOPLE> will award the best essay with a prize of <X SEK> at the 
>> occasion of FSCONS <DATE> 2016 in Göteborg. Runner-up-prizes
>> amounting to <Y> and <Z SEK> will also be awarded.
>> 
>> Please submit your contribution to <EMAIL-ADRESS> before <SOME
>> DATE>. ======
>> 
>> Probably we need print-outs to put up at universities whose
>> students we target (like Chalmers, LTH). I am naturally focused
>> on universities to which I know I have physical access. My
>> time-plan would be:
>> 
>> February-August: Contest running. September-October: Jury
>> deliberations. November: Price ceremony at FSCONS.
>> 
>> Jury members will need to be assigned. Someone from Kirei
>> perhaps (security firm in Göteborg - or some other security firm?
>> Assured?), from Dataskydd and from FSCONS and FFKP (Jonas Öberg)?
>> That'd make four people with varying backgrounds. It'd be good to
>> have someone with academic qualifications as well, since we're
>> targetting people from academic environments (with only a
>> bachelor I don't count :-().
>> 
>> best regards,
>> 
>> Amelia
>> 
>> On 12/29/15 06:51, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>> PS: If this is included in FSCONS 2016 as suggested, I too
>>> pledge to donate SEK 1000 to the prize, bringing the award up
>>> to a total of SEK 3000.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps we should try to get even more funding, so we can also
>>> have 2nd and 3rd place awards. Maybe we could use one of the
>>> crowdfunding sites?
>>> 
>>> (PPS: Sorry for an irrelevant Subject:-header the first time.)
>>> 
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I've been e-mailing with Amelia about an interesting idea for
>>>> next year's FSCONS. Summary of the idea: To have an essay
>>>> contest about political, sosial and ethical aspects and
>>>> obligations of cryptography, running in 2016, and with the
>>>> prize winner being announced and delivered at FSCONS 2016.
>>>> Amelia and friend provide the prize money (SEK 2000).
>>>> 
>>>> How does this sound to you? Amelia also suggests organizing a
>>>> committee for the prize.
>>>> 
>>>> Below is a copy of what I and Amelia have been discussing so
>>>> far (in Scandinavian, sorry about that to those who cannot
>>>> read Scandinavian -- we can discuss it in English from now
>>>> on).
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 29 Dec
>>>> 2015 01:54:24 +0100 From: Thomas Gramstad
>>>> <thomas AT gramstad.no>
>>>>  To: Amelia Andersdotter
>>>> <amelia AT andersdotter.cc>
>>>>  Subject: Re: Åpent brev til
>>>> justisminister Anders Anundsen Resent-From:
>>>> <thomas AT ifi.uio.no>
>>>> 
>>>> Hej Amelia,
>>>> 
>>>> Det høres flott ut! Jeg kan promotere tevlingen i Oslo. Jeg
>>>> sjekker inn med resten av FSCONS-komiteen. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prispengarna är en donation från mig som matchas av killen
>>>>> i Göteborg som ville hjälpa till. Så vi pytsar personligen
>>>>> in 1000 kronor var.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Svenska, norska och engelska kanske? För mig spelar inte
>>>>> språket roll.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Problemet är marknadsföring av att tävlingen finns - jag
>>>>> kan marknadsföra tävlingen i Lund, enbart. Anders i Gbg kan
>>>>> marknadsföra i Gbg. Utan att ha ännu mer pengar kommer vi
>>>>> ju inte kunna betala reseersättning för pristagaren.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Om resten av er org.kommittee tycker det är kul kanske vi
>>>>> ska sätta upp en liten arbetsgrupp?
>>>>> 
>>>>> hälsar,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amelia
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/28/15 18:43, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>> Hei Amelia,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ja, jeg er fortsatt med i org.komiteen for FSCONS. Jeg
>>>>>> synes det er en veldig spennende ide med essaykonkurranse
>>>>>> så jeg videresender forslaget til resten av komiteen! :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Et par spørsmål:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Må essay være skrevet på svensk eller på engelsk, kan
>>>>>> evt. den som skriver velge mellom de to språkene?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hvem betaler prispengene SEK 2000? (FSCONS har lite
>>>>>> penger og gikk med underskudd i år.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Om du ändå är med i organisationskommittéen för FSCONS
>>>>>>> har jag ett förslag!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Philip Rogaway skrev en uppsats om moral och
>>>>>>> kryptografi i december 2015:
>>>>>>> http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/moral.pdf
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jag funderade på om Dataskydd.net (min NGO i Sverige
>>>>>>> som också deltog på FSCONS) och FSCONS skulle kunna
>>>>>>> göra en gemensam uppsatstävling för teknologstudenter
>>>>>>> kring temat som Rogaway tar upp, med prisutdelning på 
>>>>>>> FSCONS 2016?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jag har en annan person (boendes i Göteborg) som vill
>>>>>>> hjälpa till och tillsammans kan han och jag bidra med
>>>>>>> marknadsföringsteam (vi har inte funderat på
>>>>>>> utformningen av affischer än, dock) och prissumma på
>>>>>>> 2000 kronor (Anders Bergkvist heter han).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tävlingen skulle löpa nu under våren eller fram till
>>>>>>> hösten, tänker jag. Juryn utser sedan bästa uppsats
>>>>>>> under hösten.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Vad tror du?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hare så bra på Kanarieöarna :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hälsar,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12/28/15 16:30, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hej Amelia,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ja, selvsagt husker jeg deg. :-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jeg var forresten på FSCONS, men visste ikke at du
>>>>>>>> var der før etterpå
>>>>>>> -- jeg var opptatt med å organisere/være konferansier
>>>>>>> på to av de andre sporene.
>>>>>>>> Enig i at vi bør samarbeide mot denne dumheten over
>>>>>>>> grensene --
>>>>>>> dumheten er jo grenseoverskridende/overnasjonal...
>>>>>>>> Takk for lenkene, skal sjekke dem. Har også gått
>>>>>>>> gjennom deres slides
>>>>>>> fra FSCONS, spennende tema. Har ikke fått sett videoen
>>>>>>> av foredraget ennå, men snart :-)
>>>>>>>> Jeg er på Gran Canaria 1.-19. januar, og er lite
>>>>>>>> tilgjengelig i den
>>>>>>> perioden. (Er med og arrangerer Gran Canaria Business
>>>>>>> Week, et treffpunkt for digitale nomader og
>>>>>>> entreprenører.)
>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jag hoppas du minns mig :-)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Angående er korkade Justitieminister är Sveriges
>>>>>>>>> justitieminister
>>>>>>> minst lika dum. Vi borde samarbeta mot dumheten över
>>>>>>> gränserna!
>>>>>>>>> Ett problem är att Europarådet i och för sig verkar
>>>>>>>>> godta hemlig
>>>>>>> dataavläsning ("riktad övervakning").Så
>>>>>>> människorättsargumentet är svårare att framhålla.
>>>>>>> Hemlig dataavläsning är dock urkorkat från ett allmänt
>>>>>>> säkerhetsperspektiv. Jag och några till har försökt
>>>>>>> lyfta det i Sverige:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.2931257-statliga-trojaner-hin
drar-ett-sakrare-internet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
http://www.dagenssamhalle.se/debatt/foerslag-om-dataintrang-och-signalsp
aning-duger-inte-20518?pack=20142
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> vänliga hälsningar,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>> 
>> 
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