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[Amelia Andersdotter <amelia.andersdotter AT dataskydd.net>]

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Hi Stian,

No worries :-) Thx for quick response.

I think an essay contest for students must be open at least over one
semester to attract sufficiently high-quality submissions.

Maybe someone local in Gothenburg could otherwise help our organisations
freeride on Vetenskapsfestivalen? Then we'd have to have much shorter
jury deliberations because I think Vetenskapsfestivalen is already in
September.

best regards,

Amelia

On 01/15/16 16:09, Stian Rødven Eide wrote:
> Hi Amelia, and sorry for the hold-up. Your e-mails were all stuck in
> the moderation queue.
>
> In short, I think the essay contest is a wonderful idea. The only if
> is whether there will be another FSCONS. It is likely, but not
> guaranteed, and we'll know for sure after the yearly meeting (which
> probably will take place in April). If that is too late to start the
> contest, feel free to proceed already now and we'll find some kind of
> forum to present the winners in any case.
>
> all the best,
> Stian
>
> On 2016-01-15 15:19, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
> > Reminder ping with Anders (a Gothenburg man!) included in the
> > sending list (check CC).
>
> > On 01/05/16 15:34, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> Happy new Year! To business:
> >>
> >> I would be partisan to starting out "small" in terms of money.
> >>
> >> With 3000 kronor we could have 1 first price (2000 SEK) and 2
> >> runner-ups (500 each), for instance? Or a 1st/2nd/3rd place
> >> according to 1500/1000/500SEK award.
> >>
> >> Sketch for advertisement:
> >>
> >> ===== Essay contest: Ethics of security engineering
> >>
> >> FSCONS and Dataskydd.net invite students of technology to
> >> participate in an essay contest on the theme of morals in
> >> security engineering. Inspired by Philip Rogaway's article on the
> >> moral of cryptography from December 2015 we invite anyone who is
> >> 1) currently enrolled in an engineering studies program in
> >> (<LOCATION: Göteborg, Lund, others?>) 2) <ANY OTHER GROUP?> to
> >> submit an essay on a similar or related theme of at most <XXXX
> >> CHARACTERS/PAGES> before <DATE>. A jury consisting of <THESE
> >> PEOPLE> will award the best essay with a prize of <X SEK> at the
> >> occasion of FSCONS <DATE> 2016 in Göteborg. Runner-up-prizes
> >> amounting to <Y> and <Z SEK> will also be awarded.
> >>
> >> Please submit your contribution to <EMAIL-ADRESS> before <SOME
> >> DATE>. ======
> >>
> >> Probably we need print-outs to put up at universities whose
> >> students we target (like Chalmers, LTH). I am naturally focused
> >> on universities to which I know I have physical access. My
> >> time-plan would be:
> >>
> >> February-August: Contest running. September-October: Jury
> >> deliberations. November: Price ceremony at FSCONS.
> >>
> >> Jury members will need to be assigned. Someone from Kirei
> >> perhaps (security firm in Göteborg - or some other security firm?
> >> Assured?), from Dataskydd and from FSCONS and FFKP (Jonas Öberg)?
> >> That'd make four people with varying backgrounds. It'd be good to
> >> have someone with academic qualifications as well, since we're
> >> targetting people from academic environments (with only a
> >> bachelor I don't count :-().
> >>
> >> best regards,
> >>
> >> Amelia
> >>
> >> On 12/29/15 06:51, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
> >>> PS: If this is included in FSCONS 2016 as suggested, I too
> >>> pledge to donate SEK 1000 to the prize, bringing the award up
> >>> to a total of SEK 3000.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps we should try to get even more funding, so we can also
> >>> have 2nd and 3rd place awards. Maybe we could use one of the
> >>> crowdfunding sites?
> >>>
> >>> (PPS: Sorry for an irrelevant Subject:-header the first time.)
> >>>
> >>> Thomas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been e-mailing with Amelia about an interesting idea for
> >>>> next year's FSCONS. Summary of the idea: To have an essay
> >>>> contest about political, sosial and ethical aspects and
> >>>> obligations of cryptography, running in 2016, and with the
> >>>> prize winner being announced and delivered at FSCONS 2016.
> >>>> Amelia and friend provide the prize money (SEK 2000).
> >>>>
> >>>> How does this sound to you? Amelia also suggests organizing a
> >>>> committee for the prize.
> >>>>
> >>>> Below is a copy of what I and Amelia have been discussing so
> >>>> far (in Scandinavian, sorry about that to those who cannot
> >>>> read Scandinavian -- we can discuss it in English from now
> >>>> on).
> >>>>
> >>>> Thomas
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 29 Dec
> >>>> 2015 01:54:24 +0100 From: Thomas Gramstad
> >>>> <thomas AT gramstad.no>
> >>>>  To: Amelia Andersdotter
> >>>> <amelia AT andersdotter.cc>
> >>>>  Subject: Re: Åpent brev til
> >>>> justisminister Anders Anundsen Resent-From:
> >>>> <thomas AT ifi.uio.no>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hej Amelia,
> >>>>
> >>>> Det høres flott ut! Jeg kan promotere tevlingen i Oslo. Jeg
> >>>> sjekker inn med resten av FSCONS-komiteen. :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thomas
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hej Thomas,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Prispengarna är en donation från mig som matchas av killen
> >>>>> i Göteborg som ville hjälpa till. Så vi pytsar personligen
> >>>>> in 1000 kronor var.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Svenska, norska och engelska kanske? För mig spelar inte
> >>>>> språket roll.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Problemet är marknadsföring av att tävlingen finns - jag
> >>>>> kan marknadsföra tävlingen i Lund, enbart. Anders i Gbg kan
> >>>>> marknadsföra i Gbg. Utan att ha ännu mer pengar kommer vi
> >>>>> ju inte kunna betala reseersättning för pristagaren.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Om resten av er org.kommittee tycker det är kul kanske vi
> >>>>> ska sätta upp en liten arbetsgrupp?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hälsar,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amelia
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 12/28/15 18:43, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
> >>>>>> Hei Amelia,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ja, jeg er fortsatt med i org.komiteen for FSCONS. Jeg
> >>>>>> synes det er en veldig spennende ide med essaykonkurranse
> >>>>>> så jeg videresender forslaget til resten av komiteen! :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Et par spørsmål:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Må essay være skrevet på svensk eller på engelsk, kan
> >>>>>> evt. den som skriver velge mellom de to språkene?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hvem betaler prispengene SEK 2000? (FSCONS har lite
> >>>>>> penger og gikk med underskudd i år.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thomas
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Om du ändå är med i organisationskommittéen för FSCONS
> >>>>>>> har jag ett förslag!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Philip Rogaway skrev en uppsats om moral och
> >>>>>>> kryptografi i december 2015:
> >>>>>>> http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/moral.pdf
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jag funderade på om Dataskydd.net (min NGO i Sverige
> >>>>>>> som också deltog på FSCONS) och FSCONS skulle kunna
> >>>>>>> göra en gemensam uppsatstävling för teknologstudenter
> >>>>>>> kring temat som Rogaway tar upp, med prisutdelning på
> >>>>>>> FSCONS 2016?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jag har en annan person (boendes i Göteborg) som vill
> >>>>>>> hjälpa till och tillsammans kan han och jag bidra med
> >>>>>>> marknadsföringsteam (vi har inte funderat på
> >>>>>>> utformningen av affischer än, dock) och prissumma på
> >>>>>>> 2000 kronor (Anders Bergkvist heter han).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tävlingen skulle löpa nu under våren eller fram till
> >>>>>>> hösten, tänker jag. Juryn utser sedan bästa uppsats
> >>>>>>> under hösten.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Vad tror du?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hare så bra på Kanarieöarna :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> hälsar,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Amelia
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 12/28/15 16:30, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hej Amelia,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ja, selvsagt husker jeg deg. :-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jeg var forresten på FSCONS, men visste ikke at du
> >>>>>>>> var der før etterpå
> >>>>>>> -- jeg var opptatt med å organisere/være konferansier
> >>>>>>> på to av de andre sporene.
> >>>>>>>> Enig i at vi bør samarbeide mot denne dumheten over
> >>>>>>>> grensene --
> >>>>>>> dumheten er jo grenseoverskridende/overnasjonal...
> >>>>>>>> Takk for lenkene, skal sjekke dem. Har også gått
> >>>>>>>> gjennom deres slides
> >>>>>>> fra FSCONS, spennende tema. Har ikke fått sett videoen
> >>>>>>> av foredraget ennå, men snart :-)
> >>>>>>>> Jeg er på Gran Canaria 1.-19. januar, og er lite
> >>>>>>>> tilgjengelig i den
> >>>>>>> perioden. (Er med og arrangerer Gran Canaria Business
> >>>>>>> Week, et treffpunkt for digitale nomader og
> >>>>>>> entreprenører.)
> >>>>>>>> Thomas
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jag hoppas du minns mig :-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Angående er korkade Justitieminister är Sveriges
> >>>>>>>>> justitieminister
> >>>>>>> minst lika dum. Vi borde samarbeta mot dumheten över
> >>>>>>> gränserna!
> >>>>>>>>> Ett problem är att Europarådet i och för sig verkar
> >>>>>>>>> godta hemlig
> >>>>>>> dataavläsning ("riktad övervakning").Så
> >>>>>>> människorättsargumentet är svårare att framhålla.
> >>>>>>> Hemlig dataavläsning är dock urkorkat från ett allmänt
> >>>>>>> säkerhetsperspektiv. Jag och några till har försökt
> >>>>>>> lyfta det i Sverige:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.2931257-statliga-trojaner-hin
> drar-ett-sakrare-internet
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://www.dagenssamhalle.se/debatt/foerslag-om-dataintrang-och-signalsp
> aning-duger-inte-20518?pack=20142
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> vänliga hälsningar,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Amelia
> >>>>
> >>
>

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Amelia Andersdotter
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Telefon: 0764266862
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