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[Amelia Andersdotter <amelia.andersdotter AT dataskydd.net>]

Dear all,

First things first:

- We agree the contest needs to start.
- We agree(?) there needs to be an award ceremony. Can we have focused
proposals on an award ceremony?

I propose we get in touch with Vetenskapsfestivalen. Another route would
be to have a mini-FSCONS only for the award ceremony.

best regards,

Amelia

On 01/24/16 16:47, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Stian Rødven Eide wrote:
>
>> Hi Amelia, and sorry for the hold-up. Your e-mails were all stuck in
>> the moderation queue.
>
> I volunteer to co-moderate or co-admin the org list. I already have
> 40-50 lists on 4 other mailman installations from before, so one more
> will not be a big difference or impact on me.
>
>> In short, I think the essay contest is a wonderful idea. The only if
>> is whether there will be another FSCONS. It is likely, but not
>> guaranteed, and we'll know for sure after the yearly meeting (which
>> probably will take place in April).
>
> Could this meeting take place on a thursday evening? In that case I
> might be able to attend, assuming I can couch surf in Gothenburg from
> thursday to friday, going back to Oslo friday morning. Because
> thursday I finish early at work, while friday I start work at 15:00. :-)
>
>> If that is too late to start the contest, feel free to proceed
>> already now and we'll find some kind of forum to present the winners
>> in any case.
>
> Yes, the contest needs to start now.
>
> Also, I think we need to raise another SEK 1000 for the contest, so
> that second place and third place can each be awarded SEK 1000.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>> all the best,
>> Stian
>>
>> On 2016-01-15 15:19, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>> Reminder ping with Anders (a Gothenburg man!) included in the
>>> sending list (check CC).
>>>
>>> On 01/05/16 15:34, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Happy new Year! To business:
>>>>
>>>> I would be partisan to starting out "small" in terms of money.
>>>>
>>>> With 3000 kronor we could have 1 first price (2000 SEK) and 2
>>>> runner-ups (500 each), for instance? Or a 1st/2nd/3rd place
>>>> according to 1500/1000/500SEK award.
>>>>
>>>> Sketch for advertisement:
>>>>
>>>> ===== Essay contest: Ethics of security engineering
>>>>
>>>> FSCONS and Dataskydd.net invite students of technology to
>>>> participate in an essay contest on the theme of morals in
>>>> security engineering. Inspired by Philip Rogaway's article on the
>>>> moral of cryptography from December 2015 we invite anyone who is
>>>> 1) currently enrolled in an engineering studies program in
>>>> (<LOCATION: Göteborg, Lund, others?>) 2) <ANY OTHER GROUP?> to
>>>> submit an essay on a similar or related theme of at most <XXXX
>>>> CHARACTERS/PAGES> before <DATE>. A jury consisting of <THESE
>>>> PEOPLE> will award the best essay with a prize of <X SEK> at the
>>>> occasion of FSCONS <DATE> 2016 in Göteborg. Runner-up-prizes
>>>> amounting to <Y> and <Z SEK> will also be awarded.
>>>>
>>>> Please submit your contribution to <EMAIL-ADRESS> before <SOME
>>>> DATE>. ======
>>>>
>>>> Probably we need print-outs to put up at universities whose
>>>> students we target (like Chalmers, LTH). I am naturally focused
>>>> on universities to which I know I have physical access. My
>>>> time-plan would be:
>>>>
>>>> February-August: Contest running. September-October: Jury
>>>> deliberations. November: Price ceremony at FSCONS.
>>>>
>>>> Jury members will need to be assigned. Someone from Kirei
>>>> perhaps (security firm in Göteborg - or some other security firm?
>>>> Assured?), from Dataskydd and from FSCONS and FFKP (Jonas Öberg)?
>>>> That'd make four people with varying backgrounds. It'd be good to
>>>> have someone with academic qualifications as well, since we're
>>>> targetting people from academic environments (with only a
>>>> bachelor I don't count :-().
>>>>
>>>> best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Amelia
>>>>
>>>> On 12/29/15 06:51, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>> PS: If this is included in FSCONS 2016 as suggested, I too
>>>>> pledge to donate SEK 1000 to the prize, bringing the award up
>>>>> to a total of SEK 3000.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should try to get even more funding, so we can also
>>>>> have 2nd and 3rd place awards. Maybe we could use one of the
>>>>> crowdfunding sites?
>>>>>
>>>>> (PPS: Sorry for an irrelevant Subject:-header the first time.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been e-mailing with Amelia about an interesting idea for
>>>>>> next year's FSCONS. Summary of the idea: To have an essay
>>>>>> contest about political, sosial and ethical aspects and
>>>>>> obligations of cryptography, running in 2016, and with the
>>>>>> prize winner being announced and delivered at FSCONS 2016.
>>>>>> Amelia and friend provide the prize money (SEK 2000).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does this sound to you? Amelia also suggests organizing a
>>>>>> committee for the prize.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below is a copy of what I and Amelia have been discussing so
>>>>>> far (in Scandinavian, sorry about that to those who cannot
>>>>>> read Scandinavian -- we can discuss it in English from now
>>>>>> on).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 29 Dec
>>>>>> 2015 01:54:24 +0100 From: Thomas Gramstad
>>>>>> <thomas AT gramstad.no>
>>>>>>  To: Amelia Andersdotter
>>>>>> <amelia AT andersdotter.cc>
>>>>>>  Subject: Re: Åpent brev til
>>>>>> justisminister Anders Anundsen Resent-From:
>>>>>> <thomas AT ifi.uio.no>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hej Amelia,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Det høres flott ut! Jeg kan promotere tevlingen i Oslo. Jeg
>>>>>> sjekker inn med resten av FSCONS-komiteen. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prispengarna är en donation från mig som matchas av killen
>>>>>>> i Göteborg som ville hjälpa till. Så vi pytsar personligen
>>>>>>> in 1000 kronor var.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Svenska, norska och engelska kanske? För mig spelar inte
>>>>>>> språket roll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Problemet är marknadsföring av att tävlingen finns - jag
>>>>>>> kan marknadsföra tävlingen i Lund, enbart. Anders i Gbg kan
>>>>>>> marknadsföra i Gbg. Utan att ha ännu mer pengar kommer vi
>>>>>>> ju inte kunna betala reseersättning för pristagaren.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Om resten av er org.kommittee tycker det är kul kanske vi
>>>>>>> ska sätta upp en liten arbetsgrupp?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hälsar,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/28/15 18:43, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hei Amelia,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ja, jeg er fortsatt med i org.komiteen for FSCONS. Jeg
>>>>>>>> synes det er en veldig spennende ide med essaykonkurranse
>>>>>>>> så jeg videresender forslaget til resten av komiteen! :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Et par spørsmål:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Må essay være skrevet på svensk eller på engelsk, kan
>>>>>>>> evt. den som skriver velge mellom de to språkene?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hvem betaler prispengene SEK 2000? (FSCONS har lite
>>>>>>>> penger og gikk med underskudd i år.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Om du ändå är med i organisationskommittéen för FSCONS
>>>>>>>>> har jag ett förslag!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Philip Rogaway skrev en uppsats om moral och
>>>>>>>>> kryptografi i december 2015:
>>>>>>>>> http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/moral.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jag funderade på om Dataskydd.net (min NGO i Sverige
>>>>>>>>> som också deltog på FSCONS) och FSCONS skulle kunna
>>>>>>>>> göra en gemensam uppsatstävling för teknologstudenter
>>>>>>>>> kring temat som Rogaway tar upp, med prisutdelning på
>>>>>>>>> FSCONS 2016?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jag har en annan person (boendes i Göteborg) som vill
>>>>>>>>> hjälpa till och tillsammans kan han och jag bidra med
>>>>>>>>> marknadsföringsteam (vi har inte funderat på
>>>>>>>>> utformningen av affischer än, dock) och prissumma på
>>>>>>>>> 2000 kronor (Anders Bergkvist heter han).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tävlingen skulle löpa nu under våren eller fram till
>>>>>>>>> hösten, tänker jag. Juryn utser sedan bästa uppsats
>>>>>>>>> under hösten.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vad tror du?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hare så bra på Kanarieöarna :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hälsar,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Amelia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/15 16:30, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hej Amelia,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ja, selvsagt husker jeg deg. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeg var forresten på FSCONS, men visste ikke at du
>>>>>>>>>> var der før etterpå
>>>>>>>>> -- jeg var opptatt med å organisere/være konferansier
>>>>>>>>> på to av de andre sporene.
>>>>>>>>>> Enig i at vi bør samarbeide mot denne dumheten over
>>>>>>>>>> grensene --
>>>>>>>>> dumheten er jo grenseoverskridende/overnasjonal...
>>>>>>>>>> Takk for lenkene, skal sjekke dem. Har også gått
>>>>>>>>>> gjennom deres slides
>>>>>>>>> fra FSCONS, spennende tema. Har ikke fått sett videoen
>>>>>>>>> av foredraget ennå, men snart :-)
>>>>>>>>>> Jeg er på Gran Canaria 1.-19. januar, og er lite
>>>>>>>>>> tilgjengelig i den
>>>>>>>>> perioden. (Er med og arrangerer Gran Canaria Business
>>>>>>>>> Week, et treffpunkt for digitale nomader og
>>>>>>>>> entreprenører.)
>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hej Thomas,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jag hoppas du minns mig :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Angående er korkade Justitieminister är Sveriges
>>>>>>>>>>> justitieminister
>>>>>>>>> minst lika dum. Vi borde samarbeta mot dumheten över
>>>>>>>>> gränserna!
>>>>>>>>>>> Ett problem är att Europarådet i och för sig verkar
>>>>>>>>>>> godta hemlig
>>>>>>>>> dataavläsning ("riktad övervakning").Så
>>>>>>>>> människorättsargumentet är svårare att framhålla.
>>>>>>>>> Hemlig dataavläsning är dock urkorkat från ett allmänt
>>>>>>>>> säkerhetsperspektiv. Jag och några till har försökt
>>>>>>>>> lyfta det i Sverige:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.2931257-statliga-trojaner-hin
>> drar-ett-sakrare-internet
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.dagenssamhalle.se/debatt/foerslag-om-dataintrang-och-signalsp
>> aning-duger-inte-20518?pack=20142
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> vänliga hälsningar,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Amelia


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Amelia Andersdotter
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